In this episode, Oneka McClellan has a conversation with Shelley Giglio on all things marriage, church building, and living a faith filled life. She so wonderfully helps us realize that her unconditional joy isn't because she avoids the heavy or the hard. But instead it's a heart posture of gratitude toward a loving Savior which cultivates a heart overflowing. This conversation is so personal, practical and purposeful that it's an absolute encouragement for sure.