Matthew Kilby–of Ep. 1 fame–is back to debrief on two years of funding his original pop music by teaching middle school percussion. We also talk about collaboration, getting the cops called on him for practicing, process over product, controlling the uncontrollable, role models, valuing discomfort, and how to tell students they don't sound good.  Our first conversation covered much more of his teaching philosophies and it's wonderful. Definitely a personal favorite... there's a reason he's back on the show!