Many thanks to Brian Sanders from Peak Human Podcast for this interview. I particularly want you all to hear from Brian. In my opinion, he has one of the best-balanced podcasts on YouTube. We share similar goals; working out the optimal human diet and sharing this information with as many people as we can to help make good decisions that improve health. Brian calls this the Sapien diet and this can be found at https://www.sapien.org/ Brian is also producing a film called “Food Lies” and we chat about this. A trailer to Food Lies can be found on the resources page on our website: https://susanbirch.co.nz/resources/ I am super thrilled to have my “It’s what else you eat, not the meat” tee shirt, from supporting Brian’s filmmaking project. This film is funded solely by public contributions. If you would like to help, you can do so here. In our interview, Brian talks about:  His own health journey; he thought he was healthy, but he wasn’t reallyHow we have been told the wrong things about diet and lifestyleThere is more than one way of eating. One size doesn’t fit all diets and some diets don’t fit anyoneQuality of life comparison between our ancestors and modern timesHow plant and animal food diets evolved throughout human historyThe evolution of our gut and brain as we adapted to an animal-based dietThe expensive tissue hypothesis; high nutrient availability of meat, fat and seafood changed our digestive tract as we evolvedNutrients that are specific to animal foods or not as bioavailable from plant foodsPlant toxins and food preparation techniques to get rid of the anti-nutrientsIt’s harder to cure a disease that to prevent it from happeningThe myth of cholesterol and saturated fatFinancial interests driving our food industryFood Lies film - tracing the real story behind our evolution and nutritionHis interview with Dr David Kurfeld, protein, cancer and dietary guidelinesIdeology around anti-meat agenda; religion, Belinda and Gary FettkeGame Changers DebunkedOur primary diet is animal foods, with some nuts, seeds and berriesOur fallback diet for survival;  temporarily relying on tubers and plants. Works short term - not the proper human dietHealing people from the vegan dietImportance of maintaining muscle mass as we age Why people should care about changing their dietThe role of elevated insulin in chronic diseaseHow to feed our kidsFinal thoughts; making change, the importance of community, and keeping an open mind Click here to find the study Brian talks about from the American Journal of Cardiology If you have any guests you would like to hear from or questions answered please let me know. Email [email protected] You can sign up for my newsletter to keep up-to-date with the content I am publishing, monthly blogs and Q & A webinars with experts from around the world. https://mailchi.mp/61eb6eb3e0df/newsletter-signup You can follow me on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/thehealthdetectivenz