Mariners insider Shannon Drayer is back with her fellow M's pregame/postgame host, Curtis Rogers, to give us the latest on Seattle's offseason in a new edition of the Talking Mariners podcast. And right on time, M's president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto made some waves with comments about the team's approach to payroll on his weekly Seattle Sports radio show, so Shannon and Curtis break down what he was getting at (thankfully in more than 280 characters). They also cover who should hit leadoff for the Mariners in 2023 (and whether that person is Julio) and set the scene with the MLB winter meetings -- and the moves that should come with it -- starting early next week. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.