I just got back home to Seattle after a small conference for founders in Bologna, Italy. I went with my brother Channing and there were a ton of Indie Hackers there. It was all great until the end when there was a slight outbreak of COVID and 10 founders (including myself) got COVID and ended up stranded in Italy. I'm finally back, but in the meantime, I'm publishing another throwback episode. Today's episode is one of my favorites. It's with Sam Eaton and in honor of me getting COVID, I picked this episode because we recorded way back at the beginning of the pandemic.