“When you start paying attention in a handshake, it actually tells you something about the general openness and willingness to trust, even momentarily.” In this Best of Series episode of The Inner Chief podcast, we feature Isabelle Nüssli, author of the book, “Cockfighting” on the CEO-Chairperson relationship and overcoming the drivers of conflict. 🎧👉  chiefmaker.com/321  👂   DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER OPERATING RHYTHM HOW TO GUIDE AND PUT YOUR VISION AND MISSION INTO ACTION FAST: chiefmaker.com/operatingrhythm   I interviewed Isabelle for this podcast in 2018. She is the former US CFO and chairperson of the NUSSLI Group, a leading international provider of portable and permanent infrastructures for sport and cultural events like the Olympics. They built the iconic Bondi Beach Volleyball Stadium at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, and have been involved in FIFA World Cups. Isabelle is the author of the Amazon bestselling book “Cockfighting: Solving the Mystery of Unconscious Sabotage at the Top of the Corporate Pyramid“ and “Beyond Corporate Governance”. Drawing on the latest research and interviews with more than 70 chairpersons and CEOs, Cockfighting presents Isabelle's findings on the conscious and unconscious drivers of conflict, and provides invaluable tools for overcoming differences. Isabelle has an MBA from Kellogg School of Management and she also sits on a number of Boards, including as Chairwoman of the European chapter of the Chief Executives Organization.   In this episode we talk about:  ✅  The sheer simplicity and beauty of a handshake, but why you still need a contract ✅  That doubting yourself is absolutely normal, and how to use these thoughts productively ✅  The contradictions of power and its relationship with your actions, and ✅  How she developed the Chairperson-CEO Collaboration Contract to build trust.   Deal hope, Greg   Connecting with Isabelle Nüssli You can reach Isabelle on LinkedIn. Books and resources Cockfighting - by Isabelle Nüssli Beyond Corporate Governance - by Isabelle Nüssli Follow Chief Maker 📝 Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops 🎧 Subscribe to The Inner Chief Podcast on your favourite app 👍 Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn 🍏 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts 🎵 Give The Inner Chief podcast a 5-star rating on Spotify 🎬 Subscribe to the Chief Maker YouTube channel 🤝 Connect with the Chief Maker