John Maytham speaks with Professor Lucia Anelich, a Food Safety Expert, about the National Disaster Management Centre’s declaration of foodborne illnesses as a national disaster following the deaths of 22 children, including six in Soweto. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kimon Van De Greef, Freelance journalist, joins John Maytham to discuss the complexities of the Zama Zama rescue operation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.