For this special episode, I had the great honor of sitting down with Ethan Penner. Ethan is a Wall Street legend - he created the CMBS market - and he has written a new book entitled Greatness is a Choice. We discuss a wide range of topics, including religion, charisma, counter-consensus thinking, sobriety, flow state, and much more. This is a fabulous interview - highly recommended. Ethan's book is available for pre-order here on Amazon. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theleeshow/support