Dean is halfway around the world at the World Social Forum talking liberation theology, so this week we're bringing you one from the archives. This conversation still seems timely given the new round of He Gets Us ads at the super bowl. This week, Josiah Daniels has joined us from the frontlines of the culture war, where he's been reporting on the He Gets Us campaign for Sojourners. In this episode, we talk about the "elite capture" of Jesus, dark money, and the conservative Christian PR machine.  Follow Josiah here: @josiah_RdanielsRead Josiah's piece here: https://sojo.net/articles/what-he-gets-us-ads-get-wrong-about-jesusListen to Josiah talk about this on NPR: https://www.npr.org/2023/02/11/1156344092/behind-the-he-gets-us-ads-for-jesus-airing-during-the-super-bowl Thanks to our monthly supporters Colin Gillis Hanna Justin Glenn Stina Soderling La synarquista jelly Matthew Ospina Lyn AD Jansen Katie Chepulis Terrence Holland Keenan Dolan Riley Jane De Las Casas Theo Jack Molly Grisham Laura caitlin Brittyn James Thomas Thomas Finley Matthew Joseph Marx TheAllTomato Sanjay Kumarendran steve morley Jessica C Matt Lori Petrie Mark Vinzani Michael Daniels Stacy’s Mom Craig Conrad Larson Kamran Mirza Jason Bartholomew Cooper Elizabeth Dale Ashton Adams Michael McGarry Davis Roberts Clarke Matthew Klippenstein Kevin Ethan Milich Philip Nelson Ribs Michael Lee Rodolfo Urquieta Cortes James Thomas Mark De La Paz Lea Mae Rice ChrisJ Gill Erik Mohr Joe Kruse illi Robert Shine Kurt XxXJudasdidnothingwrongXxX Maxwell Lorena Rivera Soren Harward Christian Noakes David Wadstrup Óscar Austin Gallyer Harrison g Randall Katie Marascio Elias Jacob D Francisco Herrera Michael Dimitras Jacob S Leigh Elliot Tyler Adair Catherine Harrison Zachary Elicker Kasey Erin Archambeault Mikegrapes Kate Alexander Calderon Alejandro Kritzlof Caleb Strom Shandra Benito Andrew McIntosh Peter Shaw Kerrick Fanning Josh Johnson Jonathan Taylor Jennifer Kunze Damon Pitiroi Yroffeiriad Sandra Zadkovic Stephanie Heifner Patrick Sweeney Aaron Morrison girlboss.icarus Leslie Rodriguez Sarah Clark Timothy Trout Kinsey Favre Name Colm Moran Stewart Thomas Lonnie Smith Brendan Fong Kylie Riley Darren Young Josh Kerley koalatee Tim Luschen Elizabeth Davis Lee Ketch Austin Cyphersmith Ashton Sims Ryan Euverman Tristan Turner Linzi Stahlecker Matthew Alhonte John Samson Fellows alex zarecki rob Kathryn Bain Stephen Machuga zane Collin Majors Victor Williams Daniel Saunders Andrew Brian Nowak erol delos santos Aaron Forbis-Stokes Josh Strassman Cal Kielhold Luke Stocking Sara Trey Trevor Pullinger Brian S. drew k Matthew Darmour-Paul saheemax Adam Burke Zambedos Kevin Hernandez Wilden Dannenberg Evan Ernst Tucker Clyle Christopher RayAlexander Peter Adourian Dan Meyer Benjamin Pletcher John Mattessich Caleb Cropper-Russel Tristan Greeno Steve Schiroo Robert Clelland Anastasia S Scott Pfeiffer Terry Craghead Josiah Daniels yames Thaddaeus Groat Elisabeth Wienß Hoss Tripp Fuller Avery Dez V Zane Guevara Ivan Carter Ryan Plas Jonas Edberg Tom Tilden Jo Jonny Nickname Phil Lembo Matt Roney Stephen McMurtry Andrew Ness James Willard Noj Lucas Costello Dónal Emerson Robert Paquette Arty2000 Amaryah Shaye BreadandRosaries.com Frank Dina Mason Shrader Sabrina Luke Nye David Klassen Matthew Fisher Michael Vanacore Elinor Stephenson Max Bridges Joel Garver SibilantStar Devon Bowers Daniel David Erdman Madeleine E Guekguezian Tim Lewis Logan Daniel Daniel Saunders Big Dong Bill Jared Rouse Stanford McConnehey Dianne Boardman klavvin