Are you called to be a leader of men? Are you currently serving in a leadership position? It can be lonely at the top, pushing against the cultural norms and bureaucracy of the church to reach men.  In this week’s interview, Jim Ramos interviews Scott Haima, Executive Director of the National Coalition of Ministries to Men (NCMM). He shares the importance of men’s leaders collaborating, encouraging, and becoming a resource to other men in the trenches.  To attend the 2024 NCMM National Conference, visit . [Honor God through your fitness. Use code 'ARENA30' at  for 6 weeks of free access to the MTNTOUGH fitness app.]