What is Australia’s concept of ‘National Defence’ and where does AUKUS fit into it?  What misconceptions exist about AUKUS Pillar One?  What progress has been made to realise the potential of AUKUS Pillar Two?   In this episode, Hugh Jeffrey joins Rory Medcalf to discuss Australia’s current strategic landscape, the Defence Strategic Review, National Defence Strategy, and AUKUS.   Hugh Jeffrey is Deputy Secretary Strategy, Policy, and Industry at the Department of Defence.   Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College. His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism, and academia.  Show notes:   ANU National Security College academic programs: find out more DSU: Defence Strategic Update 2020 DSR: Defence Strategic Review 2023 NDS: National Defence Strategy    We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to [email protected]. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.