Avalonia XPF This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by Avalonia XPF, a binary-compatible cross-platform fork of WPF, enables WPF apps to run on new platforms with minimal effort and maximum compatibility. Show Notes What do they go for? They go for one that's separated from the herd. And the idea behind cyber security nowadays should really actually be: put enough security controls in that they just go, "you know what? There's someone down the road that's got it all wide open. I'm just gonna go for them." And if you can just make yourself look as unappetizing and unappealing as possible, that's half the battle. — Lianne Potter Welcome to The Modern .NET Show! Formerly known as The .NET Core Podcast, we are the go-to podcast for all .NET developers worldwide and I am your host Jamie "GaProgMan" Taylor. In this episode, Lianne Potter and Jeff Watkins of the Compromising Positions podcast joined us to talk a little bit about the practical side of cyber security. Both Lianne and Jeff are cyber security professionals and have a ton of experience in the industry. But I had them talk about cyber security from a developer's point of view: what can we do, what do we need to know, and how can we help our colleagues on a daily basis? I think the other side's true as well. I think companies in general need to encourage a more holistic, and shift-left, and integrated approach to security. I think we talk about that quite a bit about the idea of this should not be an "over the fence," because I guess there's two sides of the coin. One side saying, "oh look, there's the security team, they're the Department of Work prevention, they're the ones who are going to stop you." And there's the other side of that coin where nobody's bothered to ever include people from the security in their ways of working and daily practices — Jeff Watkins So let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in dotnet new podcast and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Supporting the Show If you find this episode useful in any way, please consider supporting the show by either leaving a review (check our review page for ways to do that), sharing the episode with a friend or colleague, buying the host a coffee, or considering becoming a Patron of the show. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-6/breaking-the-compromise-unravelling-the-truths-of-cyber-security-with-lianne-potter-and-jeff-watkins/ Useful Links Compromising Positions podcast Leeds Cyber Security Conference Kaizen by Masaaki Imai Toyota Production System The Goal The Phoenix Project The Dark Money Files ISC2 ISC2's Free entry-level cyber security training + certification exam Lianne Potter on LinkedIn Jeff Watkins on LinkedIn Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in touch: via the contact page joining the Discord Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast.