The word ‘agile’ is popping up everywhere these days and agile ways of working are becoming increasingly sought after across all industries, including change leadership.  I’m thrilled to be delving into the exciting world of Agile Change and leadership with renowned expert, Dr. Jen Frahm. Jen is a global authority on organisational change, communication, and transformation, with a diverse background that spans across a wide variety of industries and 28 different countries.  As a sought-after speaker and author of two impactful books, Change Leader: The Changes You Need to Make First and Conversations of Change: A Guide to Workplace Change, Jen is known for being at the frontier of business agility and change. If Agile change has been a topic you’ve been interested in exploring in your change initiatives, you definitely don’t want to miss this conversation.  Agile change is a methodology that emphasises delivering change quickly with limited resources while ensuring the well-being of those affected. It requires change leaders to adapt their tools and processes to work efficiently within short timelines, making it a challenging yet rewarding approach. In this conversation, Jen and I discuss some of the reasons behind the growing interest in agile ways of working and the unrealistic expectations organisations may have regarding cost savings and the level of commitment required.  One of the critical challenges in Agile change is introducing agile principles into change management practices. Jen emphasises that this shift often starts as a top-down, planned change and leadership teams must embrace the Agile mindset before expecting their teams to follow suit. We discuss how a two-speed change strategy, combining top-down planning with organic transformation, seems to be the most effective approach. Leadership plays a pivotal role in Agile change, yet many leaders struggle with new concepts such as community engagement, collaborative leadership, and communication. Jen highlights the importance of nurturing these aspects to create a culture of agility, underscoring the need for transparency in decision-making, especially during experiments, to reassure leaders and build trust. I know you’re going to get so much out of this conversation as Jen shares a fresh perspective on how organisations can embrace agility in their change management practices. Enjoy! LINKS Connect with Jen Frahm: Websites: https://aclinstitute.com/ & https://drjenfrahm.com LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/jenniferfrahm Books: Change Leader: The Changes You Need to Make First  Conversations of Change: A Guide to Workplace Change Connect with me:  Download my Energy Management Toolkit here! Website:            https://www.everchange.com.au/ LinkedIn:            https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkatebyrne