In this episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino sits down with Owen McGrann. The conversation covers a wide spectrum, from the meaning of time and the billable hour to facing mortality and embracing risk. Owen shares his unique journey into law, revealing that being a lawyer is not his primary identity. He discusses his dual practice areas—working with startups and in estate planning—and the challenges of managing two separate firms. The episode delves into Owen's perspective on risk, challenging the traditional legal mindset that seeks to minimize it. Owen sees risk as the currency of business and emphasizes the importance of understanding and embracing calculated risks. As the conversation unfolds, Owen talks about his ADHD and how it has shaped his ability to see connections and systems quickly. The discussion takes a poignant turn as Owen opens up about facing mortality. He shares a personal health crisis that led him to reevaluate his life and prioritize creative endeavors. The episode explores the power of giving oneself permission to pursue passions and the transformative impact of understanding one's mortality. Listeners gain valuable insights into the mindset of a lawyer who views his work as a creative endeavor, finding purpose and joy in every moment. The episode encourages lawyers and professionals to embrace risk, creativity, and authenticity in their practices. Patrick and Owen discuss the importance of personal time and self-care for introverts like. As they explore the challenges of burnout and the need for personal outlets, Owen shares how he has structured his businesses to align with his life rather than the other way around. The conversation delves into Owen's passion for guitars and books, revealing how he balances simplicity and abundance in his life. Owen reflects on the unique sounds of his guitars, each with its own distinct personality, and the joy he finds in playing different instruments based on his current state of mind. The duo also touches on the concept of simplicity, creativity, and the freedom that comes with letting go of things that no longer serve a purpose. As the episode unfolds, Owen and Patrick discuss the evolution of their personalities and the process of reinventing oneself. They explore the idea of interconnectedness, acknowledging the fluidity of identity and the freedom that comes with letting go. Owen shares valuable insights from his post-transplant perspective, transitioning from a type A personality to a more laid-back approach to life and work. The conversation concludes with Owen sharing his perspective on what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer." He emphasizes the importance of practicing law in a way that suits the individual and serves the needs of the clients without conforming to traditional expectations. Patrick and Owen wrap up the episode with a reflection on purpose, the significance of the podcast, and the impact it can have on attorneys navigating their professional journeys. Tune in for an hour of wisdom, laughter, and thought-provoking insights as Patrick and Owen explore the intersection of personal fulfillment and professional success on The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast. About Owen Mostly, I make dinner and walk the dog. Sometimes I write and play music. Every once in a while, people pay me to talk with them about complicated things. https://www.linkedin.com/in/omcgrann https://www.mcgrannlaw.com https://www.purelyestates.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenewfangledlawyer/support