Episode 5: Why did Logan Kilpatrick leave OpenAI for Google amidst the AI surge? Join hosts Matt Wolfe (https://twitter.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://twitter.com/NathanLands) as they delve into this significant career move with Logan Kilpatrick (https://twitter.com/officialLoganK), the former head of developer relations at OpenAI. Kilpatrick's new role at Google places him at the forefront of AI product leadership, following substantial contributions to AI tools like Chat GPT. This episode unravels the layers behind Logan Kilpatrick's pivotal shift from OpenAI to Google. As a key figure in the development of groundbreaking AI technology, Kilpatrick reveals his insights on the evolution of AI, addressing the challenges and excitement that encouraged his transition. The discussion offers a peek into the potential future of AI, the ethics of open-source models, and the continuous need for innovation in technology sectors. Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd — Show Notes: (00:00) Logan Kilpatrick shares insights on OpenAI, Google. (05:09) Chat GPT creation process deliberate and intentional. (09:13) Shift from small to large company challenging. (11:10) Excited about opportunities in language model space. (16:42) Nuance of openness in technology and projects. (18:36) They're not selling a developer platform. (22:22) Open source GPT models raise safety concerns. (26:30) Concerns about centralized power and AI influence. (39:56) Hardware challenges for AI. (31:42) Exciting challenges of increasing artificial intelligence adoption. (37:29) "Play with technology to find value." (38:07) Introduced dad to chat GPT for business. — Mentions: Google I/O 2024: https://io.google/2024/ OpenAI: https://www.openai.com/ Chat GPT: https://chat.openai.com/ Google AI: https://ai.google/ Get HubSpot's Free AI-Powered Sales Hub: enhance support, retention, and revenue all in one place https://clickhubspot.com/gvx — Check Out Matt’s Stuff: • Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/ • Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/ • YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow — Check Out Nathan's Stuff: Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/ Blog - https://lore.com/ The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano