Tim Cato and Austin Ngaruiya talk about what's real from Game 4 and what might not be in Game 5: the rim protection, Dereck Lively II's reemergence, Kyrie Irving, the rotation, and Luka Doncic.

Tim Cato, Austin Ngaruiya, and Mike Piellucci talk about the Mavericks' 0-2 hole in the NBA Finals, what's led to them being here, and what things need to change — things that absolutely can — for Dallas to get back into this series.