In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Phil Simon about his book, THE NINE: The Tectonic Forces Reshaping the Workplace. Phil Simon is a sought-after speaker and recognized authority on technology, collaboration, and the future of work. He advises companies on how to use technology. His previous books include the award winners Reimagining Collaboration, Message Not Received, and The Age of the Platform. He is also the author of Zoom for Dummies® and Slack for Dummies®. Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!