What's good fam—did our first a live episode with the inimitable Natalie Scenters-Zapico as part of Lit Crawl: Seattle. It was wonderful. Hear us chop it up about Concha Piquer, ending poems, and the ethics of repetition.  Natalie Scenters-Zapico is a fronteriza from the sister cities of El Paso, Texas, U.S.A., and Cd. Juárez, Chihuahua, México. She is the author of Lima :: Limón (Copper Canyon 2019), which has been reviewed widely in prominent periodicals including The New Yorker, and The Verging Cities (Center for Literary Publishing 2015), which won the PENAmerican/Joyce Osterweil Award, GLCA's New Writers Award, and more. She has won fellowships from the Lannan Foundation (2017), CantoMundo (2015), and a Ruth Lilly and Dorothy Sargent Rosenberg Fellowship from the Poetry Foundation (2018). Her poems have appeared in a wide range of anthologies and literary magazines including Best American Poetry 2015, POETRY, Tin House, Kenyon Review, and more. She teaches poetry workshops in English and Spanish through the Department of English and the Latina/o Studies Program at the University of Puget Sound in Tacoma, Washington.