In The Power of Music Thinking podcast, we have conversations with exciting people that are also musicians. They see analogies between music and the areas they are working. So what they do is combine knowledge and skills from multiple fields to make significant contributions to various areas.  In The Power of Music Thinking book, I call them the AND-musician. I talk about this, especially in the Backstage chapter, where we dive into analogies to switch from one field to the other, like: Black is to white as off is to on. Or, conducting is to classical music as producing is to hip hop.    But there is another expression for this: polymath. Think about people like Leonardo Da Vinci, Hildegard von Bingen, or any guest on this programme. All of them are masters in different fields.   So today, I speak with Barbara Kleeb, a trained photographer, a doctor of medicine, a leadership coach for polymaths AND-muscian.   We speak about her personal journey, how studying multiple approaches leads to openmindedness and that every team or board should have at least one generalist to understand and connect different perspectives. And Barabara shares with us a tool she uses in her coaching practice: Ikigai. We also learn, for example, that most UX designers are polymaths, which resonated with me a lot, being in UX and service design positions in different companies.   Shownotes: Connect with Barbara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-barbara-kleeb  Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3PnZvP1WfY3Cg1iTQcoCm6?si=ejzISnZqSrWVZaOLGq6Ilg  Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTBAxXugXGp8Mw9B--WMDnw/featured    The Power of Music Thinking is brought to you by CREATIVE COMPANION specialised in facilitating leaders, teams and organisations in customer experience, change and innovation. Check out their website    Do you like books? Check out the new book: The Power of Music Thinking and get stories, explanations and exercises to apply music thinking. Buy The Power of Music Thinking   More like this Please subscribe to the podcast and listen to the latest episode of The Power of Music Thinking.