Trevor Gibbons joins the pod to discuss the writing and legacy of Dave Hadfield, with a focus on the seminal essay collections, XIII Winters and XIII Worlds. Trevor warmly reflects on Dave the person, his influence on British Rugby League writing, as well as some of the escapades he and Dave shared around the world in the name of the thirteen-folk code. Dave passed away in March 2022. And stay tuned after the outro for an excerpt from one of Dave's essays, A Tangerine Machine (with thanks to Phil Caplan and the kind folk at Scratching Shed Publishing).