It's been a huge few days for our friends in the US with Harris and Trump coming face-to-face for the first time. On today's episode, Joe debriefs the debate, and is also joined by someone who says vaping is good for you. Plus, Albo has vowed to introduce a social media ban for children, but how did it all come about?  In this episode, there is a mention of suicide. If this topic is triggering for you, please seek help by visiting Lifeline's website at https://www.lifeline.org.au/ or by calling 13 11 14. LINKS Read Joe's column in The Daily Telegraph here Follow @joe_hildebrand on Instagram Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial.  Got a question for Joe? You can email us at [email protected] See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.