Where are your delicate and vulnerable spots that, when touched, cause a defensive reaction? In this thought-provoking episode, Ali explores the concept of fragility with Kelly Wendorf, founder of Equus and author of "Flying Lead Change." Kelly, a horse-wise woman and insightful author, unpacks how our most vulnerable spots trigger defensive reactions in both personal and professional settings. She illuminates the origins of our fragile responses, examining how shame triggers can impact our leadership and decision-making, and contrasts fragility's "power-over" mindset with the transformative potential of robustness. The dialogue moves beyond identifying fragile behaviors to examine practical approaches for cultivating robustness. Kelly shares insights on developing a more open, accountable, and genuinely connected way of being in the world. Drawing from her extensive experience with equine wisdom, she offers unique perspectives on authenticity and wholeness, challenging conventional notions of power and control in both personal growth and leadership contexts. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Follow our step by step guides: - How To: Leave a Review on Your Computer: - How To: Leave a Review on Your iPhone:  Never miss an episode! Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on all our episode releases. Fragility Feedback Conflict  Radical Self-inquiry