Tony sits down with Jan Dizard, retired professor of sociology at Amherst College and author of several books on hunting, including "Hunting: A Cultural History" (MIT Press, 2022). They discuss hunters at Amherst, non-utilitarian views of nature and animals, struggling R3 efforts, growing up in Duluth, hunting by two rivers, the spiritual attachment that human beings have to food, the mortal stakes of hunting, growing uneasy with killing as you age, the Rinella/Hanes/Rogan effect on hunting, de-fetishizing technology, the moral compact that the hunter has with the animal s/he is pursuing, and more.   Find Jan's latest book here: https://amzn.to/3W0SgkP   Find Tony's new book at GodOfWildPlaces.com   https://reverendhunter.com/