Tony chats with Oregon wildlife biologist Ben Padilla about what drives wildlife populations, failing as a high school teacher, growing up on a seminary campus, the practice and attention that comes from hunting, the power of disturbance, bugs killing caribou, climate change, the beauty of evolution, the damage of dualism, the indigenous ways of embodying nature, maintaining hope, and more.   Find Tony's new book at GodOfWildPlaces.com   https://reverendhunter.com/