This week, writer Byrne Hobart and investor Erik Torenberg discuss the economics of conferences and cities, rise of meme stocks, future of coding in the age of AI and more. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected]. --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Economics of conferences vs Economics of cities (04:09) Historical and modern city dynamics (06:02) Controversies and discussions at conferences (10:00) Rise of meme stocks and retail investors (17:38) Sponsor: Babbel | Beehiiv (20:10) High volatility in stocks (23:10) Cultural influence of 4chan and Reddit (28:33) Value capture in startups and capital structure (31:30) Exploring self-funding and investment strategies (37:14) Concept of cross-investing in people (45:05) Value of learning to code (50:15) Future of therapy in an AI-driven world (57:56) Impact of AI on engineering jobs (01:00:28) Comparing software and media (01:03:50) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact [email protected]