This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg are joined by Omar Shams, the founder of Mutable AI, for a deep dive into Omar’s great piece, The AI Organization. In this conversation, they explore the potential of AI to transform organizational productivity, the limitations of financial metrics in GDP, and AI's role in political processes and societal structures. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH Keeping econ entertaining. Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1696419056 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co The AI Organization, part I: https://blog.mutable.ai/p/the-ai-organization-part-i The First Org Chart Ever Made Is a Masterpiece of Data Design: https://www.wired.com/2014/03/stunningly-complex-organization-chart-19th-century/ --- X / TWITTER: https://x.com/smahsramo (Omar) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Historical context of technological adoption (02:40) The AI Organization (06:10) Economic theories and AI (11:55) Capitalism vs. Communism (16:00) Sponsor: Babbel | Brave (17:28) Role of AI in future economies (18:51) AI's impact on company sizes (24:10) AI and political influence (29:50) Effect of AI on legal services (31:55) Complexity of GDP and human preferences (41:57) Future of Work and AI Integration (54:24) AI adoption in various sectors (01:03:56) Outro