In this episode of the Sales Technology Podcast, David Dulany sits down with Nick and Armand, the dynamic duo behind the 30 Minutes to President's Club podcast, for a deep dive into cold calling and their new book *Cold Calling Sucks and That’s Why It Works. They explore practical strategies for overcoming the dreaded "500-pound phone syndrome," dissect the psychology of cold call objections, and share step-by-step tips on refining talk tracks, objection handling, and time management. With insights backed by their new book, they bring humor, wisdom, and actionable advice to help listeners turn cold calls into a consistent source of pipeline. Whether you're a seasoned SDR, Salesperson, Marketer or new to the game, this episode will arm you with the skills and confidence to turn cold calls into conversations—and conversations into sales! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-sales-technology-podcast--1947957/support.