Patriarchy seems like an entrenched fact today, and many argue that it is the 'natural' order of things. But is it? What do we really know about its roots? How did male domination spread across different societies and cultures? And what can science, history and archaeology tell us about it? These are the questions that science writer Angela Saini explores in her latest book, The Patriarchs: How Men Came to Rule. In this episode, she joins Sandip Roy to talk about what she found out while looking to answer these questions, and the role we play in keeping Patricharial structures alive. Produced by Shashank Bhargava Edited and mixed by Suresh Pawar