Marissa talks to none other than Joyce Vance, former federal prosecutor, professor of law, co-host of Sisters in Law podcast and legal analyst of NBC and MSNBC and friend to chickens and knitters alike. And, we suspect, if chickens could knit, she’d be friends with them too.  Joyce and Marissa discuss a topic that has them both concerned about the election: How to make sure everyone knows their vote counts…and what you can say to people who don’t believe it matters if they don’t vote. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices