In 2017, Billy Corgan released his 2nd solo album, "Ogilala", but this time under the name William Patrick Corgan and with a much more organic and stripped-down sound. It's an album containing some of Corgan's best work and illustrates the power of his songwriting and ability to bend and shape the core of a song into the sound he envisions. Joining Frank as guest co-host is a long-time friend and Pumpkinhead, Dr. Thomas Whitfield. Thomas digs deep and uses his Ph.D. to help break down the lyrics with surgical detail. If getting super in-depth and nerdy diving into WPC lyrics is your bag, then this episode is for you! Frank and Thomas discuss being wary of people who aren’t passionate about something/anything, hiding Mellon Collie and the Goosebumps books from religious parents, seeds of CYR and ATUM found in Ogilala and Thomas' “Special K” experience with the album. Plus a quick chat about the gorgeous short film, Pillbox, co-directed by Linda Strawberry. How to support the 'kast: NEW ! ⁠⁠⁠MERCH⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Our PATREON⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Pumpkast⁠⁠⁠ Please rate and review us! Follow us on the socials: Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠@PumpkinsPodcast⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@smashingpumpkast⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠@smashingpumpkast⁠⁠