Get comfortable in a chic loveseat for an episode all about the INTERIOR DESIGN WORLD! From discrimination at HGTV to Alex facing her own discrimination trying to DONATE her furniture because she’s conservative- designers Chrisi Hammer and Catie Bouchard spill all the tea about the interior design industry.  Chrisi and her husband, Matt, starred in the HGTV show Hammer It Forward, which the network abruptly canceled after the first episode aired, despite record viewership. Alex and Chrisi discuss the woke controversy that led to the end of their series…PLUS Chrisi and Alex make a big reveal about some future plans in the works that you won’t want to miss! Alex and Catie Bouchard discuss Pen + Napkin, Catie’s non-profit that furnishes homes for families in transition out of homelessness and human trafficking. Then Catie shares some behind the scenes scoop on redesigning Alex’s apartment and the controversy that arose when Alex tried to donate her furniture. DONATE TO PEN + NAPKIN HERE.  New episodes of The Spillover air every Thursday at MIDNIGHT EASTERN on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Watch the LIVE premiere of every interview at the same time HERE.  Episodes also air every Friday at 6:30 PM EST on TPUSA Live. Today’s podcast is brought to you by Strong and Sexy Fit. Strong and Sexy Fit is a women’s wellness company that has been taking the supplement industry by storm with their powerful and unique formulas. Check out their website HERE and try any of their products today and get 15% off with code “SPILLOVER".