Life isn't easy, as most of us would agree. Our special guest this week, Eileen Tully, has lived through her own share of traumas and sorrow. But she is still full of exuberance and joy and shares with us some wisdom she has picked up along the path of grief.  Maybe even with a quote from The Office thrown in! Links: Eileen's Website --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/springsinthedesert/support