Antti Kettunen is the leading Digital Identity Consultant at Tietoevry, specializing in Decentralized Identity and Trust Ecosystems. He is an active contributor and Task Force lead in Trust over IP, technology working group member in the Finnish FindyNet cooperative, and contributing member in other domain expert groups. Dr. Kai Kuikkaniemi is and enterprise architect, an advocate for open ecosystems and human-centric digitalization, and a Senior Advisor at MyData, having done lots of work around ‘data spaces’. About Podcast Episode Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/exploring-commercial-data-ecosystems⁠⁠ The full list of topics discussed between Antti, Kai and I in this podcast conversation include: How do concepts of digital trust apply or differ in organizations versus individuals? How is trust achieved differently by organizations in organization-to-organization relationships versus organization-to-people relationships? Are data spaces a new type of role within this digital ecosystem? Can risk or liabilities be shared within these areas? Are there historical examples of organizations serving similar purposes for different ecosystems? Why is liability more important in this digital space, when the issuing authority or the party attesting to the authenticity of a document don't necessarily take liability if something goes wrong? How is liability managed in this open ecosystem space, particularly when interactions don't necessitate a legal relationship between parties? How can risk be managed to ensure enough rewards and shared risk that organizations will want to switch over and engage in the new model? Could consumers manage their possible vendors through a similar scenario by owning their own data, as suggested by Doc Searls's writings on vendor relationship management (VRM)? (Recommended book: https://www.amazon.com/Intention-Economy-When-Customers-Charge/dp/1422158527) Can the introduction of these digital ecosystems allow for earlier development of relationships in the customer acquisition cycle? How can these ecosystems enable trust-based marketing? How can new data ecosystems for commercial use cases be incubated and developed based on government digital identity or credentialing programs? What would be some recommendations for forming governance bodies for data ecosystems and the incentives for organizations to form and deploy services within these ecosystems? Where to find Antti? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/anttikettunen/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/anttikettunen Blog: https://identifinity.net/ Where to find Kai? LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kai-kuikkaniemi-84388/ Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/kaikuikkaniemi Follow Mathieu Glaude Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/mathieu_glaude  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/