In Islam, Jihad means the struggle for peace, particularly within oneself. In this podcast series I interview writers at different points in their careers to talk about struggling and finding peace in their work. Contact me @bassimstory and you can support this series at my Patreon of my name: Bassim El-Wakil (www.patreon.com/user?u=4409461) The eighth episode is with Gavin Verhey, a game designer for Magic: The Gathering. We talk about how Gavin's desire to write and how fulfilling a creative outlet game design can be. Royalty free music from Bensound. Story Toolkit logo design by the Proxy Guy.