In this episode of the Threshing Floor, we sit down with John Heinz from Centerform, an innovation hub for Christian Ministry. Centerform serves as a co-working and event space in downtown Atlanta, Ga.  Our conversation includes: Red Dawn. Gas station snacks. What movie have you seen the most? Casey Neistat. John Heinz, the chief innovation strategist at Centerform. Reurbanization and the church. Engaging urban ministry. Coexisting voices. Centerform is about questions and getting the right people at the table and discovering the answers together. Defining urbanization. What is an innovation hub? What it means to create a fishpond. Discovering common language together.  Rediscovering the idea of vocation.  Space for pioneers and apostles.