In this conversation, I interview Henci Goer about her early work as a doula and childbirth educator and her new book on pain management during childbirth - Take Charge of Your Birth - Labor Pain. We explore the pros and cons of epidurals and the need to change perceptions and misinformation around them. Throughout our conversation we emphasize the need for expectant parents to educate themselves to make informed decisions in labor. Henci highlights the significance of having a birth plan and communicating effectively with healthcare providers. We also discuss the challenges faced by doulas in the medical system and the importance of emotional regulation. I hope this episode empowers moms to take charge of your birth journey and approach your baby's birth with confidence and knowledge.