Dr. Kirsten Small discusses the lack of evidence and known harms of continuous monitoring in labor. She highlights the challenges of questioning established practices and the fear of litigation or professional reputation. Dr. Small also emphasizes the importance of informed consent and the need for alternative monitoring methods. Additionally, she addresses the concerns of VBAC mothers and the limited research on CTG monitoring specifically for this population. This conversation explores the lack of evidence supporting the use of continuous CTG monitoring during labor and birth. Tracy Donegan discusses the limited research on CTG monitoring and its impact on outcomes for both mothers and babies. She also highlights the importance of self-advocacy and informed decision-making for pregnant women. Additionally, she shares her work in providing training and education on fetal monitoring for birth professionals and parents.