The loss of a child must be heartbreaking, devastating, surreal all at once - how can you even begin to define it? One morning back in November 2007, it was a nightmare that North Wales father Simon Hill was thrust into - but for Simon, there was an extra dimension to such a tragedy. For it was at the hands of his equal - the person supposed to love and protect a child more than anyone. The episode contains details and descriptions of crimes and events, involving  a child, that some listeners may find disturbing and or distressing, so discretion is advised whilst listening. Music used in this episode: "The Descent" by Kevin Macleod. All music used is sourced from https://filmmusic.io/ and used under an Attribution Licence (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Playlist Tracks Led Zeppelin - Immigrant Song St Vincent - Big Time Nothing The True Crime Enthusiast's Fundraiser For Macmillan Cancer Support References https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/joanne-hill-jailed-life-drowning-2814608 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7631734.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7631234.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7632231.stm https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/fifteen-years-for-killer-mum-968059 https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/child-murder-trial-childminder-blamed-5233360 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-497565/Mother-charged-murder-walking-hospital-carrying-body-disabled-daughter.html https://ssristories.org/mother-murders-her-ssri-editor-year-old-daughter/ https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/mother-guilty-murdering-disabled-naomi-2154420 https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2008/09/24/joanne-hill-case-mother-convicted-of-murdering-disabled-daughter/ http://www.devachat.com/index.php?showtopic=50718 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/joanne-hill-jailed-for-murder-after-drowning-her-four-year-old-daughter-l6z95rw90v9 Mother drowned disabled daughter in bath | UK news | The Guardian Mother jailed over child's murder | Metro News Father brands wife 'evil' as she is jailed for life for drowning their disabled daughter | Daily Mail Online Mother charged with murder after walking into hospital carrying body of disabled daughter | Daily Mail Online New jury sworn in at Chester child murder trial - Cheshire Live (cheshire-live.co.uk) Convicted killer Joanne Hill could not cope with child’s disability - Cheshire Live (cheshire-live.co.uk) ssristories.net/archive/showe118.html?item=2821 Naomi Hill........killed by her mother (forumotion.net) My wife said sorry for drowning Naomi but I couldn't hear remorse in her voice | Daily Mail Online Mum facing murder trial went to get girl ‘smelling of alcohol’ - Wales Online 2021-670-homicides-of-women.pdf (heddlugogleddcymru.police.uk) `Evil' Mother Sent To Jail For Drowning Disabled Naomi | Irish Independent | Wednesday 24 September 2008 | British Newspaper Archive http://www.eveningleader.co.uk/news/Flintshire-murder-charge-mum-asked.4486783.jp BBC NEWS | Wales | Disability 'behind girl's death' BBC NEWS | Wales | Accused mother's alcohol 'smell' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7612667.stm BBC NEWS | Wales | Mother 'held girl's head in bath' Joanne Hill begins life sentence for murdering disabled daughter Naomi - North Wales Live (dailypost.co.uk) Child murder trial: Hill was “confused & bewildered” after arrest - Cheshire Live (cheshire-live.co.uk) Naomi Hill murder: The unique pressures of caring for a disabled child - Mirror Online Husband whose wife drowned daughter gives evidence in court - North Wales Live (dailypost.co.uk) Child murder trial: jury hears accused mum’s story - Cheshire Live (cheshire-live.co.uk) Drunk mum took dead daughter to hospital - Wales Online BBC NEWS | Wales | Mum 'drowned disabled daughter' Child murder trial: doctor says mum was “not mentally ill” - Cheshire Live (cheshire-live.co.uk) Follow/Contact/Support The True Crime Enthusiast