Josh Gondelman spent several years as a writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver on HBO and is now a writer and producer for Desus & Mero on Showtime. He has performed on Late Night, Conan, and The Late Late Show. And he just put out a new book of essays called Nice Try: Stories of Best Intentions and Mixed Results. In this episode, he talks about the challenge of getting a late night writing job and how staying open to different possibilities has allowed him to succeed in multiple ways.Sean Joyce is the founder of Underground Comedy and produces over 500 live comedy shows each year.If you have a question about comedy or any feedback about the podcast, you can email [email protected].