Episode 312 VBAC Basics with Meagan & Julie
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This episode goes back to the basics and is a great place to start on your VBAC journey! Julie joins Meagan today as they talk about many common questions beginning with reasons why providers tell women they can’t go for a VBAC.  Topics today include:  Nuchal cordsBig babiesSmall pelvisesArrest of descentThird-trimester ultrasounds Cervical dilationInductionDue datesThe ARRIVE TrialWhy there is so much contradicting VBAC infoPregnancy intervals Epidurals Meagan and Julie also reflect on how their perspective toward each of these topics have changed over the years. Allowing for nuance is so necessary when approaching birth. Know that you always have options and never feel pressured to make a decision that doesn’t feel right for you. The VBAC Link Blog: Pregnancy Intervals Needed Website How to VBAC: The Ultimate Prep Course for Parents Full Transcript under Episode Details  04:24 Review of the Week 07:48 Intro to the basics 09:53 Nuchal cords 13:30 Big babies, small pelvises, fluid levels, and third-trimester ultrasounds 17:08 How will this change my care? 18:47 Cervical dilation 25:54 Due dates 28:18 Vulnerability and the ARRIVE trial 30:44 Inducing a VBAC 36:15 Julie’s social media story 38:29 Contradicting information 41:36 Pregnancy intervals 46:38 Epidurals 54:13 Allowing for nuance Meagan: What’s up, everybody? This is Meagan. We have Ms. Julie with us today and we are going to be talking to you about what we need you to know about VBAC. We obviously like to talk about different topics but Julie and I decided this morning as we were getting ready to record that we need to do an episode on just the basics again. Don’t you feel like it’s the basics?  It’s not to shame anyone for not knowing the information. It’s honestly to– I don’t even want to say the word shame– but providers are not educating their patients. They are just not. We see it time and time and time again where people just don’t know.  We saw a post, I don’t know, maybe a month or so ago. I think maybe Julie sent it to me. It was just saying, “Hey, so can you have a VBAC no matter what reason the C-section was for?” Someone said, “Well, it depends because if it’s something like a cord wrapped around the baby’s neck, if that was the reason you had your previous C-section and if your last baby had its cord wrapped around their neck and was having struggle, yes. You have you have a C-section.”  Julie: I am getting a little salty. I feel like maybe salty is not the right word, but direct. I jumped in and I’m like, “That’s actually not true. The cord wrapped around a baby’s neck preventing them from descending is a perfect VBAC candidate because it’s not anything to do with the pelvis or labor stalling or anything like that.” Anyways.  Meagan: Even with that said, even with that said–  Julie: People still argued with me.  Meagan: Well, but even if it was due to someone being told that their pelvis was too small or their baby didn’t descend–  Julie: That’s also false.  Meagan: That’s also false.  Julie: I mean with actual pelvis trauma where it’s actual CPD and is legitimately diagnosed and that type of thing. Honestly, most people are good candidates for VBAC but we are going to talk about that.  Meagan: Yeah, we’re going to talk about that today because it’s obviously something that we are really passionate about and it’s something that we want you guys to know so let’s talk about it.  04:24 Review of the Week Meagan: We do have a Review of the Week. You guys, it’s a really long one and I might have specifically been waiting for Julie to come on with me so she can read it because she’s a lot better at reading long reviews sometimes. I’m just going to pass the time over to Julie to read this amazing review.  Julie: Now I feel pressure, man.  Meagan: Don’t mess up.  Julie: The pressure’s on. Are you ready for this? This review says, “This is such
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