In this episode we WadeOutThere with Thi Nguyen, from Salt Lake City, Utah.  As long as Thi can remember he has had a love of all kinds of games.  Thi was raised in California, studied philosophy in school, and moved to Utah to work as a philosophy professor at the University of Utah. He started fly fishing to help counteract some of the negative aspects of the new remote teaching environment that arose during the pandemic, and fell in love with the sport and its congruence with his work in the philosophy of games.  He is the author of the book, Games: Agency as Art.  This episode is a deep dive into the philosophy of fly fishing.  We discuss why we play the game of fly fishing, how fly fishing can be an infinite game, and a little bit about Thi’s experience learning to fish on the Provo River. To learn more about Thi and the topics we discussed in this episode, check out the following links: Twitter:  @add_hawk Thi's website: Objectionable.net Games: Agency as Art Show notes + MORE Newsletter Sign-Up View Jason's Artwork Thanks for listening. VR- Jason