In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner and John Mihaljevic welcome former co-host Phil Ordway to discuss the current environment for equity investing and where returns might come from going forward.

In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner and John Mihaljevic welcome back special guest Bill Chen, founder and managing partner of Rhizome Partners, to discuss public equity investing in real estate. Bill addresses premortem failure analysis, management quality, and related topics.