In this episode, I got to talk with a Professor of Politics from the University of Virginia, John M. Owen. John is a Senior Fellow at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Culture and the Miller Center for Public Affairs. He is the author of Confronting Political Islam: Six Lessons from the West’s Past, The Clash of Ideas in World Politics: Transnational Networks, States, and Regime Change, 1510 - 2010, Liberal Peace, Liberal War: American Politics and International Security, and his new book, The Ecology of Nations: American Democracy in a Fragile World Order. Owens has published in the European Journal of International Affairs, International Security, New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, and many others. He received his Masters of Public Policy from Princeton University and his Ph.D. from Harvard University. He has held visiting positions at Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Oxford, the Free University of Berlin, and the University of British Columbia. In our conversation, we talked about his book, The Ecology of Nations, and how different countries in the world interact with each other on the geopolitical landscape. We also discussed his article on First Things on the four stages of liberalism. We talked about the younger generations moving toward authoritarian regime and away from democracy. And finally, we discussed how one’s theology must connect to their political philosophy. I hope you enjoy!