INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/throughtheweb.podcast/ WATCH THE VIDEO: https://youtu.be/pYmRqOTkLu8 Twitter: https://twitter.com/throughtheweb 00:00 Intro 01:06 Who is Carl Pei?  01:52 Carl's parents  04:15 Carl's early inspirations 05:26 Carl's leap of faith  07:27 MP4 Players! 08:24 Obstacles as a young founder 09:49 Nokia to Oppo to One Plus 10:42 Why Carl admires Apple and Jobs 12:07 Why another tech company?  13:28 Finding the right people 15:38 Is Nothing a "disruptor"? 18:06 Inefficient modern smartphone UI 20:01 Nothing's growth challenges 21:23 Why community is important 25:11 Nothing's design language 27:12 Glyph origins 27:50 Nothing's creative campaigns 30:05 Nothing's social media strategy  34:00 Is Carl an introvert?  35:23 Working with Casey Neistat 36:41 Dealing with criticisms  38:34 What does success look like for Carl and Nothing?  40:34 Future of tech  43:05 Nothing laptops?! 44:14 Final message from Carl  45:18 Outro Produced by: Brayden Laffrey, Dagogo Altraide (ColdFusion), Tawsif Akkas