Beth Pickens helps artists. She invented her own job, combining counseling and arts management, and now works as a consultant for artists and arts organizations in L.A. She is also the author of "Your Art Will Save Your Life" and the host of Getting Real About Money workshops. Beth is a Capricorn, like me, and we meet on the first day of Capricorn season for a powerful conversation about working from home, working with other people and working on our relationship to money. LISTEN TO HEAR HOW YOU CAN MAKE MORE MONEY IN 2020. Beth describes how family is the foundation of group psychology and the way workplaces often mirror the family dynamics of each employee. We also discuss coming from families who didn’t self-describe as artistic or feminist and who weren’t highly educated or rich. We talk about Beth’s childhood in the deep Rust Belt, the way attending the opening of the Andy Warhol Museum in Pittsburgh impacted her adolescence and growing up adoring Andy Warhol before the mass commercialization of his imagery. I realize I grew up in the aftermath of a “boom and bust” generation and about different kinds of money damage (and getting over the idea that nothing about money can be positive). Beth says rich people have crazy money damage too! We talk about growing up in financially homogeneous neighborhoods (like Beth’s, where the richest family around was comprised of two teachers) and financially dissimilar hometowns (like mine in LA, where heiresses and low-income could all end up in the backseat together). Beth shares one of her own most transformational financial habits and reflects on gauging whether your romantic partner is making you a better artist or not. We also touch on blue ocean strategy and The Babysitter’s Club! Follow Beth - http://www.bethpickens.com/, read her book and consider attending one of her Getting Real with Money workshops later this year!