Nato’s new Secretary-General Mark Rutte has told The Times he can work with Donald Trump if he is re-elected as president. However, he also warned America can’t go it alone in an increasingly ‘harsh, uncompromising’ world. Our defence editor Larisa Brown unpacks her interview with the head of the defence alliance. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more: www.youtube.com/@ListenToTimesRadio  Read more: www.thetimes.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.