Join Sabrina as she speaks with Niki Wood, an international development MEL expert, and they discuss how monitoring, evaluation, and learning, and risk have more in common then you might think.References and citations for this episode are:Rogers, P. J. (2008). Using Programme Theory to Evaluate Complicated and Complex Aspects of Interventions. Evaluation, 14(1), 29–48. https://doi.org/10.1177/1356389007084674Michie, S., van Stralen, M.M. & West, R. The behaviour change wheel: A new method for characterising and designing behaviour change interventions. Implementation Sci 6, 42 (2011). https://doi.org/10.1186/1748-5908-6-42Michie S, Atkins L, West R. (2014) The Behaviour Change Wheel: A Guide to Designing Interventions. London: Silverback Publishing. www.behaviourchangewheel.com.Mayne, John. (2015). Useful Theory of Change Models. Canadian Journal of Program Evaluation. 30. 10.3138/cjpe.30.2.142. Resources:https://www.betterevaluation.org/https://www.evaluation.org.uk/https://www.eval.org/https://europeanevaluation.org/https://rebelwithcausation.com/