As the first woman to serve as Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Hon. Julie Bishop knows a thing or too about diplomacy. She was also the deputy leader of the Liberal Party at a time when it came under fire for a perceived ‘woman problem’. Bishop, who is now Australian National University chancellor,  joins Helen McCabe to reflect on a career that was, at times, perhaps “too diplomatic”.  Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Explore a career with Victoria Police. Become an FW member to join the movement and fast-track your professional development. Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, Threads and X See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.