Episode 60 is a conversation with west coast punk rock veteran and practicing therapist Pete Normal.  Though we never met 'back in the day' our time spent in many of the same cities and our web of mutual friendships made talking with Pete feel like I was visiting with an old friend. In addition to our shared cultural and musical history we share a deep interest in mental health, personal transformation and spiritual growth. We talk about how his life in music and his interest in these subjects led him later in life to pursue the work he does today as a licensed clinical social worker and therapist. It's a fun, inspiring and sometimes surprising conversation: I mean how many therapists do you know who found themselves on a neo-nazi hit list when they were teenagers? Well, after you listen to this episode, you'll know at least one! Thanks for listening and for supporting the podcast! For more Punk Rock Therapy talk:  Tony Mengis' Titanic Reaction Podcast MUSIC: Lazyboy 'Fill It' Hooray For Everything 'Step Away' TM Pod Theme by Jason Support The TM PODCAST Patreon Venmo: @Jason-Traeger-1 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jason-traeger/support