Bobbin and Eric host Lakayana, Executive Director of Word is Bond, who works with young Black men and boys on leadership development, and more notably, spearheaded walking tours around Portland called “In My Shoes,” where their ambassadors led community members, including elected officials through Portland neighborhoods through their experiences as a Black man. Bobbin, Eric, and Lakayana process the white supremacist terrorism in Buffalo, and how it is not an isolated incident, but a feature of the the value system of the country. They talk about the mainstreaming of extremist and white supremacist ideology, and how this will lead to more violence. Lakayana talks about how centralizing community well-being should be the focus rather than the police. Lastly, Eric, Bobbin, and Lakayana talk about why police "unions" prevent police accountability and ask the question, are they really "unions."